View Full Version : Lvling once all non grey are pristine.
Draca
09-01-2005, 08:03 AM
Does anyone know any effective way to lvl up once you make atleast one of all none rare non grey items pristine. I am 27 armorer and am basicly just doing the tradeskill writs whenever I get vanguard writs but even with that it seems to very slow to get out of 27 and I imagine 28 will be worse.
Kingbobb
09-01-2005, 08:13 AM
Armorer has very few pristine bonuses, so there's not really an effective way to get through those later levels. I just hit the 30s, but from what I remember about the level you're at, there weren't even any new books from like 26-29. I ended up just making gobs of either gauntlets or bracers, as they required the fewest subs for the final product. I also skipped doing writs, as the exp for making shaped seems to be much lower than for making a pristine. And while I know you can make shaped a lot faster than pristing, I only have limited crafting time, so it's better for me to take the extra time to make a pristine than it is to make shaped.
You could also work on all the generic skills for the extra pristine bonuses. My armorer runs through all the new weaving and woodwork generics for the pristine bonuses, and I'm considering taking up apothecary for the huge number of generic pristines you can get from those. But since I've got an alchy alt., it would take a long while for my armorer's apothecary skill to raise to the point of being able to make pristines that would get him the exp bonus.
All of which is a rather long-winded way of saying you just have to slog through the higher armorer levels without any pristine bonuses.
kieroth_whiteleaf
09-01-2005, 02:07 PM
What I do is less efficient from a resources/xp standpoint, but it really works with the marketing.
Moving 100 BPs is tough, they take forever to sell and you're constantly fighting the market.
But if you make armor in sets they sell MUCH faster and you can usually move 5-7 times more stuff in the same amount of time. When I'm working on my armorer, I typically make a set of chain and a set of vanguard in a night, put it on the broker and restock whatever sold by the next day. USUALLY most of it sells overnight, and frequently it ALL sells overnight. However, I've never been able to move more than 3 BPs in a night.
Trying to minimize subs is actually less efficient (assuming you harvest your own resources) - more subs = more xp (even if it's not enough to notice) AND the higher products yield more xp than the lower ones... A BP is worth a lot more xp than gauntlets.
From an XP standpoint, chainmail BPs are the way to go, just grind those until you finish. But then you've got a ton of chainmail BPs that take forever to move.
I make all my own subs using the "secondary" skills after I hit about the x5 levels (before that I've got a legion of tradeskill characters and the subs are still efficient enough XP to make them worth doing with those characters) - if you spam the highest level of buffs you end up getting skillups pretty quick. Usually in one solid tradeskill session I can take the secondary skills I use frequently (for the armorer it's apothecary, weaving and geomancy) almost all the way to maxing. Most of my characters make worts as well as my alchemist.
Using "secondary" skills, but still harvesting my own raws, I can make and sell an entire suit of T3 armor for MUCH more than I paid to make it (roughly 7x) and I get all the xp from the subcombines.
Armorsmiths are teh suck for leveling. But they're arguably one of the best (I think only jewelers and maybe provies have them beat) for marketing.
SFG
Draca
09-01-2005, 03:06 PM
thanks for the responses looks like I just got deal with the slowness of exp I already got tier 4 orders at lvl 27 from guildies so I guess I just need to take a few nights and do tradeskilling till vitality goes down or I fall asleep on the keyboard.
On another note can anyone tell me if I can imbue stuff I already attuned to myself I basicly went armorer because I could never find any chain on the broker for a reasonable price so I just made a full suit myself. ( and with the frustration of patterns and padding I see why)
kieroth_whiteleaf
09-01-2005, 04:13 PM
You can imbue things that are attuned, assuming that the item is attuned to YOU (and thus in YOUR inventory). For obvious reasons you can't imbue OTHER peoples' attuned gear.
A while back if you imbued an attuned item, it reset it to a non-attuned item. I am not sure if it still works that way, but if it does, you may want to consider NOT imbuing it until you're done with it, then imbue and sell.
SFG
Draca
09-01-2005, 05:35 PM
actually I was curious if I could imbue my own gear because I plan to keep using it for awhile :D My main/armorer is a 21 troub so I could use as much hp regen and as possible for when I solo and the dmg sheild will help to. That and I didn't become an armorer for profit but to actually make myself armor for a decent price.
kieroth_whiteleaf
09-02-2005, 02:56 AM
If you're making it anyways, you might as well be selling it (unless you're on crushbone, then I don't want the competition ;) ) - and if you're selling it, you might as well be making stuff that will sell.
Just my opinions.
If you just want to level fast, and money isn't an object, stay with BPs as much as possible. Still try to sell, but be aware that you'll flood out your own market.
SFG
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