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BuzWeaver
11-09-2004, 06:23 PM
I'm doing the Wholesale Merchant Quest from Willow Wood, I have to collect 15 Malachites, but I'm not able to get past 5. Just thought I pass that along. I didn't do any Crafting on Isle of Refuge now I regret it because I can't make myself bags.

BuzWeaver
11-09-2004, 08:16 PM
I finally got them, however it keeps giving me more quest to do. I suggest do as much crafting on the Isle of Refuge as you can.

Ariadne
11-10-2004, 04:45 AM
You'll always get the gather quests from him - they are supposed to increase your status & the status of the guild (and therefore increase the goods you can buy), not work on your own exp I believe. Gather resources, and use the machines..

Dreadalus
11-10-2004, 04:47 AM
I was a little bummed to find out you couldn't just hand in any ol' raggedy stack of stuff you have in the bank. You actually have to harvest anew after you get your "work order."

Ariadne
11-10-2004, 05:07 AM
In Beta (don't know if it still works) you could hand your "previously collected junk" to another player. If they gave it back to you one at a time, it dinged the quest items.. worth a try?

Dreadalus
11-10-2004, 05:10 AM
Why, you sneaky little gnome! Very much worth a try, thanks!

Zaepho
11-10-2004, 06:51 AM
Hrm.. somebody shoudl verify this and /bug it if so.
i smell sploit..
Simply have both players get the quest and pass a single malachite back and forth. Quest completions as fas as you can pass the item back and forth.

edit: i would check it but that darn tin box is holding up my copy of EQ2!!

Ngreth Thergn
11-10-2004, 09:44 AM
I'm doing the Wholesale Merchant Quest from Willow Wood, I have to collect 15 Malachites, but I'm not able to get past 5. Just thought I pass that along. I didn't do any Crafting on Isle of Refuge now I regret it because I can't make myself bags.

Why can't you make bags?

The person who sells the water and fuel is downstairs under the stairs :) (asuming you are good, not sure where the merchant for evil is... but I am sure it is in the zone somewhere :) )

mebrhea
11-10-2004, 12:48 PM
Simply have both players get the quest and pass a single malachite back and forth. Quest completions as fas as you can pass the item back and forth.

I believe you have to hand in all the items, so unless you already had all the required items, this would not work.

Ariadne
11-10-2004, 12:50 PM
yes, you do have to hand in the items (or I did in beta certainly).. Someone else did report however that they DIDN'T, so this needs verifying by someone who is in the game atm :)

Atlock Darkhand
11-10-2004, 12:52 PM
doesn't work anyway... tried it...

Ariadne
11-10-2004, 01:05 PM
one at a time, or in a stack? In a stack definitely didn't work even in beta..

BuzWeaver
11-10-2004, 01:54 PM
In Beta (don't know if it still works) you could hand your "previously collected junk" to another player. If they gave it back to you one at a time, it dinged the quest items.. worth a try?

This did work for me but most likely because I had a stack of Elms already in the Bank, it does work if someone gives you the stack or individual amounts that will lead up to a full stack.

If Ngreth is right I’m going to be a happy man, I thought the Merchant with the items/recipes wouldn’t appear till I completed the quest. So I’ll have to check down stairs to see if the merchant is down there.

I’ve not seen any changes in my status points after completing two of the quest, I’ll have to re-check.

Ariadne
11-10-2004, 03:16 PM
for status points, are you checking in your SOCIETY window (you should get 100 per quest completed) or your "Persona" window - this is for GUILD status points, not craftsman society status :)

BuzWeaver
11-10-2004, 10:14 PM
I'll have to find the society window, never seen that before. I checked tonight in Persona and my Status Points are 0. Do you have to be 10 as well? I hit 10 tonight but 0 status, I'll check for the Society Window.

Ariadne
11-11-2004, 06:02 AM
Status points in Persona window are for guilds (player run ones).

Society (reached through your EQ2 menu, then selecting Society) are the NPC Wholesaler type things :)

Foladar
11-11-2004, 10:12 AM
The "give one" trade thing does work and he does take your items (the 15 required) from you.

Moonshade
11-12-2004, 09:51 AM
As a friend told me last night, the wholesaler doesn't care where you get the stuff from, he just wants it. At least we know that *somebody* harvested it, since you can't buy those items anywhere. I'll be a harvesting fool over the weekend because I realized that I'm halfway to level 10 adventurer and my harvesting skills are only around 25 or so. As I understand it, once I hit level 10 adventurer, the wholesaler will be tasking me for tier 2 items...:( I'd best get cracking!

Inyidd
11-12-2004, 09:55 AM
As I understand it, once I hit level 10 adventurer, the wholesaler will be tasking me for tier 2 items...:( I'd best get cracking!

Yes, indeed. Unfortunately, my first post-level 10 task is for sullied average hides, and my trapping is level 22 (dinged once last night). Ugh. It couldn't be mining or gathering, no! :P

Moonshade
11-12-2004, 10:31 AM
Yes, indeed. Unfortunately, my first post-level 10 task is for sullied average hides, and my trapping is level 22 (dinged once last night). Ugh. It couldn't be mining or gathering, no! :P

Hrm, the law of averages in effect. :) Of course the bears and deer in Antonica drop pelts pretty often...at least they did in beta.

Inyidd
11-12-2004, 10:43 AM
Hrm, the law of averages in effect. :) Of course the bears and deer in Antonica drop pelts pretty often...at least they did in beta.

Which is fine, but I have a feeling if I don't go back and get my trapping up now, it's not going to go up.

Bleh.

Gilfalas Elaandrin
11-15-2004, 01:49 PM
Just to verify, trading wholesale quest items between players does indeed count of the units you need on your wholesale quest. The reason this is NOT a bug is that, should you not have the needed amount in Inventory when completing the quest, it will NOT complete as the wholesaler actually TAKES the items in question when the quest is done.

This allows you to gather components from friends and guildmembers to complete the tasks.

It may seem like a bug but I think it is intended. In this case the quest items DO go into inv and ARE expended in finishing the quest. As such there is no way to 'cheat' the system. If you trade the items back and forth to get yout item count down, you still cannot finish the quest since he wants the pelts in addition to the quest item counter.

The nice thing is that if you have enough skill and have foraged a LOT of many different items, you can get lucky and finish quests back to back with the trade method assuming you ahve the items needed on you, like I did this weekend.

Note that trading a STACK of pelts or ore, etc, credits you with ONE of that type of item, not however many are in the stack. You will get credit for one on the quest counter for every one trade window box that has the appropriate item in it.

Ngreth Thergn
11-15-2004, 09:49 PM
Yeah, we are not sure if it is a bug or not, but they seem to not object to it (like exploiting a pricing bug... that they object too) so for now... Go for it :)

Drael
11-16-2004, 02:49 AM
buying works, too. I 2 box, yes, I have a mule account already, lol. I harvest for hours on end, filling up her stash. Then when i'm in wholesaler, I just grab a task, run down stairs and buy back my harvested item. I don't see this as a bug - what about crafters who never leave the city, they couldn't do these tasks any other way. Then again...hmmm, at least I did do the original harvest.

Flendon
11-16-2004, 07:54 AM
It seems resonable to me. Someone still has to do the harvesting. The items still leave the economy. No damage to the economy appears to be done. Just a work around for those who prefer to spend money/influence with friends to get this done.

shank
11-25-2004, 01:17 AM
just a quick reply, new here but i lurk the board, got a tier 3 harvest task(rough agate) and completed it, reward was 48sp forgot to check status gain.

another question i have, i noticed that the resources were taken from my inventory, what happens if you don't have them anymore, even though you have the items checked off in the journal will i still get credit at the final hail?
the reason i'm asking this is a similar harvest quest(dwarven work boots) asks me to go harvest 100 iron and 100 maple from antonica, i don't have the items anymore and i wonder if i bugged the quest from not having the resources even though they are checked off on my journal?

laughingowl
11-25-2004, 04:10 AM
Shank:

If you read the quest the last step is 'Turn in the items', you have to have the items with you when you hail the quest giver to get the reward.

You are not 'bugged' though you will be able to complete the quest, you just need the 100 maple and 100 iron on you.

Either mine/chop some more until you are back up to 100, or go buy from broker.

To complete the quest you need to harvest / craft the specified number of items AND have the specified number of items on you when you hail the quest giver.

The items from part 2 need NOT be the same as from part 1.

Peace

shank
11-26-2004, 01:32 AM
thanks, bought the number i needed to restock back up to what my journal indicated i had already done(at a lower price then what i sold em at :) ), then went out and harvested some more until i hit 100/100.

BTW, this is for the start of the dwarven workboots heritage quest, listed under heritage tab, "these boots are made for..." given by Hwal Rucksal in Antonica. after the journal updated it stated i only needed to return 50/50 to him.

PekinElfe
11-29-2004, 09:07 PM
yes it still works and it counts you when someone trade the needed stuff back to you

little tip when you give him already 5 stacks a 3 so he can trade 5x1 back to at a time and it will be count and he need only 3 trade insteadt of 15 :o)

saved me a lot of time when we trade our harvested thing between us to get the wholesalers task done and we harvested it anyway in the first place

Daniell - Permafrost

Arbrelax
12-05-2004, 07:29 PM
I've seen much discussion here and other threads about the one at a time hand off.

My view is that if I gathered it myself (or bought it) as long as I am willing to give it to the guild it should be legit?

Have had discussion with guild members who dont agree.

What's the word if any from SOE. Exploit or just lazy coding that won't give credit for gathering before you get quest?

Zendaken
12-05-2004, 08:52 PM
Geez y'all, please read the FAQs (http://www.mboards.eqtraders.com/eq2/forumdisplay.php?f=4), in particular, the Societies FAQ. You'll find that this is official, as per word of Moorgard.

Arbrelax
12-05-2004, 11:31 PM
Thanks Zend - I thought I had read that but couldn't find it again - felt like I'd been caught with my pants down in front of guild members during a hunt and was getting desperate :)

Am linking the Moorgard response on my guild's website too, hehe