Hex Dolls

[Jackkal]

OK, after some harvesting in CL and TS I scrounged up enough rares to make a few of the new Hex Dolls

For the Tier 2 stuff, here is what I made:

http://home.comcast.net/~kaatin/EQ2_T2_Dolls.JPG

The Shadow and Chaos Dolls uses the rare Sisal Root along with the new Glowing rare. yep, thats TWO Rares for one item.

For the T3 dolls

http://home.comcast.net/~kaatin/EQ2_T3_Dolls.JPG

The non-pristine is a screwup. still burned thru 2 rares.

Oh yea, the rares used for the T3 dolls is the Dandelion and Sparkling.

So far, the only stat increase is for INT, STA, AGI and STR

The effects of the Shadow and Fright Dolls appears to stay the same. least for the T2 and T3 dolls

The effects for the Chaos and Ruin is 13 for T2 and 45 for T3. I need to level in Tailor again before I can make the T4 dolls.

The Stat increases by +1 per tier for the rare Dolls. Thus the T5 Rare Doll will give a stat bonus of +12.

The lowdown:
Get a nice stat increase for the activateable slot.
Movement does NOT interrupt casting.
Hex Dolls DO NOT GREY OUT! I sold a T2 doll to a Lvl 48 and he wore it no problem.


Now EVERYONE can play with Dolls, not just the pansy Elfs in Qeynos :)

[Herculez]

Am i looking at this correctly? I dont see any required or mastery skill in any of the pictures, leading me to believe it would be possible for a lvl 1 to equip and use t5 voodoo/hex dolls. I assume this is a bug and the items were ment to use a skill such as magic affinity like jewelery. In any event, i agree with most posters concerning these dolls, the stats are excellent for an activatable slot item, as an assassin i normally have a poison in my slots, but with a 12hr or 100 procs duration i wouldnt be a bother to put a pair of agi or an agi and str doll in my slots after using a poison. These items look to be very nice and i wanna say thx to jackkal for posting the pictures for these items.

[Pandori]

I WANT MAH WISDOM DOLL!!!!!!!!!!!!

There is a doll for all the other stats, but none with wisdom ..........

[Jackkal]

Glad ya like 'em.

And yea, a lvl 1 could equip 2 T5 dolls.

And the TS Dev has stated taht he is looking to add WIS dolls, no clue when.

[imready2go]

Thanks to the OP for all the info.

Not being a tailor, I was curious as to how difficult it is to make the hex dolls and what an appropriate price would be. Are the same extracts used for imbuing objects the same used to make the dolls? Is the only difference for the dolls made with two rares the extra stats? (If I am reading it right: looks like the regular tier2 dolls get +4, and the ones made with sisal get +9.)

The tier2 "glowing" objects that I assume are used to make the extract for the dolls are selling for less than 1g now, and alchys are selling the extracts themselves for about 5-6g. The dolls (non-rare) on my server are selling for 50g. Seems like quite a mark-up unless there is a significant cost that's just not obvious to a non-tailor. (Sure the dolls are nice, but that price is way beyond the average player's means.)

[Herculez]

Im curious as the production process as well. I am one of those people who dont like to ask a crafter to make an item for me from scratch with procided ingredients and will instead make all the sub components myself or have them hired out so that i can present the final ingredients and some money to the final crafter. So my question is, what is the exact recipe for the dolls? The extract for sure, but what form does the rare item need to be in and are there any other combos that need to be done first? Really lookin forward to having someone make me str and agi dolls for my assassin and wanna make it as easy for them as possible.

[aaldarr]

Bought Pristine Shadow Imbued Ruckas Hex doll today for 20g. Supposedly it would slow mob attk by 22-26 percent (approx). Have cast on mobs ranging from 33 - 39 (my level is 39) and not once has it stuck and slowed any mobs at all. Mobs ranged from no up arrows, to double ups. NOTHING happens except a RESISTED message on all mobs, even the grey ones. What gives? Hate to think I have wasted 20g. I did get the additional agility, but I wanted the slow.

[Durgrok]

Bear in mind that a Ruckas doll is tier 3; 20-29. How many spells cast by a 20-29th caster would stick on your target?

(As an aside - 20gp? WOW! On my server, dandelion fibers go for nearly that price.)

[Tess]

Bought Pristine Shadow Imbued Ruckas Hex doll today for 20g. Supposedly it would slow mob attk by 22-26 percent (approx). . .

Although it does not exactly pertain to your problem of constant resist messages (and I'd have to agree that you'd need the next tier doll at least - or save up for a T5 one if you are after spell effects and are nearly lvl 40 anyway...), note that as depicted in the pics on the initial post, the shadow imbued ruckus doll slows the target but it not the same as an attack slow (compare the pic of the fright imbued for the difference). That rather refers to an ensnare or movement type slow. Happy hunting! :)

[Durgrok]

The cool thing about the slow-snare doll is that it's a GREAT runaway tool for soloing... if you start losing, turn, run, and trigger the doll - it will work while you're moving, so when it lands, your chasing beastie slows down, you sprint away, and bwaha! Escape is yours!

[Ollimonger]

Not being a tailor, I was curious as to how difficult it is to make the hex dolls and what an appropriate price would be.......<sniped>........The tier2 "glowing" objects that I assume are used to make the extract for the dolls are selling for less than 1g now, and alchys are selling the extracts themselves for about 5-6g. The dolls (non-rare) on my server are selling for 50g. Seems like quite a mark-up unless there is a significant cost that's just not obvious to a non-tailor. (Sure the dolls are nice, but that price is way beyond the average player's means.)

Well....I made 3 Pristine Tier 2 Agi dolls last night. I already had the Rare cloth made, and the Extract......all said and done took me about 10 mins to make the rest of the parts and do the final combines. Didn't think it was that hard, and don't think there was a significant cost that you are missing. If you are missing it than so am I. :) ;) As to Fair Price......that is a subject I am not going to touch.

So my question is, what is the exact recipe for the dolls? The extract for sure, but what form does the rare item need to be in and are there any other combos that need to be done first?

Needed items.
1 Cloth of Proper Type (Rare or Normal depending on which you want)
1 Yarn from Proper Tier (Normal for both versions)
1 Extract (obtained from you friendly Alchy)
Fuel from Proper Tier (Didn't pay attention to how many the Rare took I just bought a stack of 20 and went to town)

and that is it. Combine took less than a minute for a Pristine.

[Jackkal]

Needed items.
1 Cloth of Proper Type (Rare or Normal depending on which you want)
1 Yarn from Proper Tier (Normal for both versions)
1 Extract (obtained from you friendly Alchy)
Fuel from Proper Tier (Didn't pay attention to how many the Rare took I just bought a stack of 20 and went to town)

and that is it. Combine took less than a minute for a Pristine.

1 Cloth of Proper Tier (primary)
Rare Cloth
Rare Root + 2 Yarn + 9 Fuel + 2 Oils +2 Wash

2 Extract of Proper Tier
Broker or Alchemist made

3 Yarn of Proper Tier
Common Root + 1 Wash + 1 Fuel

4 Fuel of Proper Tier

So for rare you will need
1 Rare Root
1 Extract
3 common roots
2 Oils
3 Wash
11 Fuel

(hope i'm not missing anything)

For Normal Doll
4 Common Roots
1 Extract
1 Oil
2 Wash
5 Fuel

(again hope i'm not missing anything)

So the biggest cost for the Dolls is the Rare, Extract, and Fuel. I didnt take into consideration the raw, liquid and fuel to make the WORTS. It is a little time consuming to make from scratch but if you have the WORTS and Yarn pre-made, wont take long for final combines.

Pristine Rare Hex dolls have their stat bonus at +5 over the same tier Pristine Normal Doll.

A Pristine Tier 5 doll will have a bonus of +12
A Pristine Tier 2 Doll will have a bonus of +9

A WIS Hex Doll is in the works and will be added *soon*

[aaldarr]

Thanks Tess, that makes sense about the slow. Don't know why I didn't figure that out on my own. I am still confused as to how one can just look at the dolls and know what level they are effective at from just a visual glance. Wish it would indicate such in the description along with all else. Oh well, looks like I did waste some gold. Back to foraging for rares again.

[imready2go]

Picked up a tier2 non-rare hex doll yesterday for 5g. I guess the market prices are going to fluctuate wildly for a while; the 50g I saw the other day was probably more a fluke with the first seller to the market unsure what to charge.

The tier2 doll does get resisted nearly every time on anything above tier2. Customers really need to understand what they are buying into with dolls made from different materials. Also important since the dolls must be attuned.

What are the different types of cloth for the different tiers? From the OP:
Tier2 - burlap and roughspun (rare)
Tier3 - ruckus (or canvas? wth is ruckus? lol)
Can any tailors enlighten us with the cloth types?

[Durgrok]

Tier 4 - Cloth/Broadcloth dolls
Tier 5 - Linen/Rough Linen dolls

(Rare/Common in order)

[Herculez]

I am still confused as to how one can just look at the dolls and know what level they are effective at from just a visual glance.

A quick and easy way to determine the level range of the item is going by the stat gain on the item. These items are still tiered even though they dont have a required skill associated with them.

For rare dolls, you will see these stats on pristine quality results:
+12 for t5, lvl 40-50
+11 for t4, lvl 30-39
+10 for t3, lvl 20-29
+9 for t2, lvl 10-19

The non rare dolls are the same except they have 5 less of the stat on the doll.
+7 for t5
+6 for t4
+5 for t3
+4 for t2

With those numbers, you should be able to quickly determine a doll's tier if you cant remember what cloth name is associated with each tier and if it is rare or common.

As to effectiviness, think in terms of standard spells and procs or poison or similar resistable attack. If a t5 mob resists t4 spells or poisons over half the time, you could expect similar results using a t4 doll on a t5 mob.

[aaldarr]

Good stuff Herc. Thanks!

[Sunfire]

Bought Pristine Shadow Imbued Ruckas Hex doll today for 20g. Supposedly it would slow mob attk by 22-26 percent (approx). Have cast on mobs ranging from 33 - 39 (my level is 39) and not once has it stuck and slowed any mobs at all. Mobs ranged from no up arrows, to double ups. NOTHING happens except a RESISTED message on all mobs, even the grey ones. What gives? Hate to think I have wasted 20g. I did get the additional agility, but I wanted the slow.

I'm not sure if you got the difference between the dolls:

Shadow dolls slow the RUN SPEED of the mob (22-26%).

Fright dolls slow the ATTACK SPEED of the mob (6-9%).

But that still doesnt explain the resists....

[Durgrok]

As I said above; remember that the resists you are experiencing may be directly related to the tier of the doll. Roughspun dolls are level 19; you can't expect them to affect a 34th level monster.

[Zorog]

How does stacking with other effects like poisons with the hex doll effects work? If these replace my poison or bleed effect, I may not want them.

How do they work anyway? Do I put them in my activatable slot? Do I get the stat bonuses even if I don't activate them?

[Jackkal]

How does stacking with other effects like poisons with the hex doll effects work? If these replace my poison or bleed effect, I may not want them.

How do they work anyway? Do I put them in my activatable slot? Do I get the stat bonuses even if I don't activate them?

No clue on the poison bit

Put em in activateable slot
make a hotkey if you want to use the spell effects.
no need to activate to get the stat bonus.

[Zendaken]

I'd suggest checking out the Hex Doll Resource Thread for more information and to see if your questions cannot be further answered! :)

[Eumenides]

My lvl 36 monk is a lvl 35 Tailor, and I had recently been using a few of my own Hex dolls, ruckas, canvas, roughspun.

I was unable to see the 'clicky events' because my own crafted dolls were grey to me. So (at lvl 35) I purchased myself a broadcloth Hex Doll made by another tailor.

It was green! And as soon as I dinged 36 it went grey. I got to see the clicky event once or twice before that 10g was wasted on something I could have made myself (and with higher stats)

Why is it that the armor a tailor makes for tier 4 caps out around level 40, but the hex dolls made with the same materials from the same tier (recipe not available until lvl 39) grey out at lvl 36?

I really don't want to have to spring for a linen doll made by another tailor who is charging what I would charge but don't wanna pay just so I can use the clickies!

[Prrasha]

"Why is it that the armor a tailor makes for tier 4 caps out around level 40, but the hex dolls made with the same materials from the same tier (recipe not available until lvl 39) grey out at lvl 36?"

...because they have a "required" Magic Affinity skill, but no "upper limit (mastery?)" Magic Affinity skill. Armors say things like "required: light armor: 150, mastery: light armor: 200", which sets the orange-con level at 30th, and the white-con level at 40th. With nothing setting the white-con level on dolls, they go grey fast. Provisioners had this problem with their tradeskill buffs (!) a while back...

Might be worth a /bug.