Bagseses!

[Niami DenMother]

Putting this here, since it starts with artisan, then goes to outfitter, then (presumably) to tailor.

With yesterday's patch, the various backpacks not only vary in number of slots, but also in weight reduction.

level 5:
crude rawhide leather backpack is 4 slots
shaped rawhide leather backpack is 5 slots
(non-named) rawhide leather backpack is 6 slots and 5% weight reduction
pristine leather backpack is 6 slots and 10% weight reduction

Level 15:
Crude = 6 slot 0% WR
shaped = 7 slot 0% WR
normal = 8 slot 5% WR
pristine = 8 slot 10% WR

edit: stole the level 15 stuff from a post buried in another thread, sorry about that, Moonshade :)

[Moonshade]

Yay! I'll let you know when I get level 15...perhaps tonight :)

[xirxx]

Ok, I might be slow it or missed it - but do outfitters get the level 15 bag?

Actually, now that I think about it they must - who else would get it.

Is that rawhide? (at work currently, I can't check it)

[Niami DenMother]

Level 15 outfitter ... tanned leather, if memory serves.

[Moonshade]

Yes, so far all tier 2 Outfitter leather items are tanned. Unless these bags are the "dreaded rare bag of many slots that only drops once in a blue moon and requires unholy dark-oiled badger pelts" :)

[xirxx]

Ok, I must have ignored them before due to hearing they were probably 6 slot only.

[Spyke]

Yes, so far all tier 2 Outfitter leather items are tanned. Unless these bags are the "dreaded rare bag of many slots that only drops once in a blue moon and requires unholy dark-oiled badger pelts" :)

"We don' need no steekin' badgers!"

Sorry... couldn't resist. =P

[Niami DenMother]

Ok, I must have ignored them before due to hearing they were probably 6 slot only.

They were just added with yesterday's patch. :)

And Spyke, better look out or you'll get me started on the badger song.

Poor Gallenite one night last month was in the Forest Ruins checking up on something and I got *him* started on the badger song due to the badgers in that zone. {smirks}

[Spyke]

ROFL!

o/` Mushroom... Mushroooom o/`

[Kesiax]

And Spyke, better look out or you'll get me started on the badger song.

Badger! Badger! Badger! Badger! (Snake!) Badger! Badger! Badger! Badger!

Kesiax
Halfling Scout,
Crafter Wannabe

[mebrhea]

just when you think that song has gone away...

[Spyke]

just when you think that song has gone away...

I'll never let that song die. It's too good. =)

[mebrhea]

I hear you - I infected practically my entire university year with it.

[FenixFyre]

All your badger are belong to us. Somebody set us up the loom.

[Atlock Darkhand]

Putting this here, since it starts with artisan, then goes to outfitter, then (presumably) to tailor.

With yesterday's patch, the various backpacks not only vary in number of slots, but also in weight reduction.

level 5:
crude rawhide leather backpack is 4 slots
shaped rawhide leather backpack is 5 slots
(non-named) rawhide leather backpack is 6 slots and 5% weight reduction
pristine leather backpack is 6 slots and 10% weight reduction

Level 15:
Crude = 6 slot 0% WR
shaped = 7 slot 0% WR
normal = 8 slot 5% WR
pristine = 8 slot 10% WR

edit: stole the level 15 stuff from a post buried in another thread, sorry about that, Moonshade :)

Are there any higher bags in tailor?

[Silverjohn]

Whie I think highly of the noble Badger, whose sterling qualities are known to all, I must ask, as President Emeritus and Grand Master of the Truly Stinky of Butcherblock, if our ancient and venerable prey, the Large Skunk, has survived the great Cataclysm and found it's way to Antonica;)?

"Democracy is the worst form of government... until you consider the alternatives."
Winston Churchill

[Runcor]

Malock wrote:
Are there any higher bags in tailor?

Yes there are higher bags. Cured Leather bags can have up to 10 slots. I don't recall the weight reduction as I wasn't able to make one before the recent change to the system.

[Madhog]

Most of us will probably make bags to fill bank slots to give us more space to store crap, so with that in mind, a quick tip:

You can make wooden boxes which have lots of slots depending on the quality you get, whatever you do, dont make 6 at once with the intention of taking them all to the bank in one go.

*blush*

/whisper "you can't move...."

:D

[Drucilla]

Haha! :)

[Lord Kusac]

No kidding. the elm boxes at least weigh 100 units. I dont even have that much total carry weight, but the crude elm box has 6 slots so i can hardly wait for the higher tier pristine versions

[Ngreth Thergn]

There are suposed to be more bags... probably at every n5 level. (5,15,25) but we did not have contact with a 25 tailor to check, sorry!.

[Flungmuk]

It would probably be safe to say, at the right tailor level.

Crude = 8 slot 0% WR
shaped = 9 slot 0% WR
normal = 10 slot 5% WR
pristine = 10 slot 10% WR

I do know, that at level 9, my artisan after 20 tries, couldnt make a 6-10% bag.
Came very close on a few, but no dice.
That was before they final trade skill change.

[Elyana]

Last day of beta I rechecked the bags and noticed that the rare material bag (shaped) click-link was showing it to be 7 slots and the common one was showing as 5 slots. Also, on the chests I saw a difference in shaped vs common (I had written this down but I can't find the paper I wrote it on!)

[Atlock Darkhand]

Thanks for the replies all.. looks good.. hopfully well be able to make some really nice ones...

[Gilfalas Elaandrin]

Note that there are Rare 'waxed' backpack recipes pre level 10.And the Tanned backpack recipe is now either 11 or 12 for Outfitter. I only leveled to 13 outfitter last night and I had both pack recipes in my listing prio to that. I will try to remember to check them and post tonight.

The only thing that stopped me from trying to make them is the wash and resins needed I cannot make and my guild did not have enough of the right resources yet to have our aspiring alchemists make them yet. We solved that over the course of last evenings adventures and should have more results tonight.

Additionall at 12 I was able to make a tier 3 and tier 4 (pristine) Iron Longswords, which was very suprizing since it is a blue receipe still. I will do more testing tonight as well to try and determine success ratios at 13 on these. Sadly the pommels need to be made by a rune crafter and the one we had groused that I was interupting his scribing hehe.

[Talsien]

Most of us will probably make bags to fill bank slots to give us more space to store crap, so with that in mind, a quick tip:

You can make wooden boxes which have lots of slots depending on the quality you get, whatever you do, dont make 6 at once with the intention of taking them all to the bank in one go.

*blush*

/whisper "you can't move...."

:D


Tis true, I made 4 boxes and couldn't move. I destroyed my 2 5 slots and then was able to move fine. Threw a couple str buff songs and I could still run.

Also there are supposed to be boxes up to 36 slots so using bags in the bank would just be a waste.

[Zinj_Work]

I made a pile of backpacks before leaving the Isle of Refuge. Was running about 75% shaped & normal (5 slots), and 25% pristine (6 slots). Filled all my bank slots with them. Also threw together an elm strong box on a whim. First thing I did when I got to Qeynos was build a pile of strong boxes and replaced all the backpacks in the bank with them.

Need to hunt down the waxed recipes, and see if there is a higher slot box doable by a 15th level scholar, or if I'm going to have to:

A: make a second character to do those skills
B: find someone with a REASONABLE price for those items.

[Daeanor]

You can make wooden boxes which have lots of slots depending on the quality you get, whatever you do, dont make 6 at once with the intention of taking them all to the bank in one go.I thought weight doesn't apply in the overflow slot - and I know you can stack as many containers as you like there if you craft them when your slots are full. I got the impression from beta discussions that this was intended for this very reason, and was considered an acceptable compromise in immersion due to game mechanics (why force a crafter to run to the bank every combine, and then make the stuff so heavy he can't?).

I might add, for roleplay purposes, I just imagine myself kicking a stack of them along the ground to the bank...fortunately, it's close... :)

[Stefenn]

The overflow slot does indeed allow you to make ONE strongbox, but if it has anything in it already, you are prevented from doing any further combines.

So to make strongboxes you have to make them one at a time then run them to your bank while still in overflow mode. And if you give to anyone else...make sure they're within clicking distance of bank, esp. if a wussy caster type (like me).

Vivid / Tylendell / Merkurial / Walkurie

[Ngreth Thergn]

it is more. you need bags in every slot AND at least one spot within a bag free (I.E. if all slots are filled and all bags are full... you only get to make one)

[Gojira]

I got the Advanced Artisan Outfitter Essentials Volume 7 last night and scribed it!

From the description of the bags the best you can make with it will be a 7 slot 14% WR Waxed Leather Backpack.

I'm a level 13 Scholar, but I'm hoping that out of the 80 badger pelts I have I can get one or two. ;)

[Atlock Darkhand]

just go to an outfiter trade him some tempers for some 8 slot bags!

[Gojira]

just go to an outfiter trade him some tempers for some 8 slot bags!

Hmmm.. you mean trade these hundreds of Trinoid-Isonoid-Resinwaxwashtempers for Waxed Leather Backpacks?

That's so crazy it just might work!

Thanks!

[Amaranthe]

If you can get an outfitter to trade you a Waxed Leather Backpack for chloro-whatever, even stacks of it, then that outfitter is (IMO) a fool.
Waxed Leather requires the Mythical component non-sullied pelt from trapping nodes (which are uncommon to begin with)

But if you do find this outfitter, give me his name. I'll gladly make stacks of liquids. It would take less time than finding the pelt. :D

[Gojira]

If you can get an outfitter to trade you a Waxed Leather Backpack for chloro-whatever, even stacks of it, then that outfitter is (IMO) a fool.
Waxed Leather requires the Mythical component non-sullied pelt from trapping nodes (which are uncommon to begin with)

But if you do find this outfitter, give me his name. I'll gladly make stacks of liquids. It would take less time than finding the pelt. :D

Heh, that's why I said Trinoid components and not Chloro. ;)

I'd even throw in my stack and a half of mythical low quality badger pelts to sweeten the deal ;)

[Amaranthe]

Ah, I see... I thought for sure you weren't serious about the trinoid :p

And you've trapped 30 mythical pelts? Please let me in on your secret! :)

[Gojira]

Ah, I see... I thought for sure you weren't serious about the trinoid :p

And you've trapped 30 mythical pelts? Please let me in on your secret! :)

Nevermind, I'm a dork.

I have stacks of low quality mole rat pelts.. arg!

What are those good for?

I'll find something I can make with alchemy that'll be valuable to trade heh, give me time. I'm only 13 so far.

I do however have two mined pieces of Blackened iron and one piece of Bronze! (What's the bronze good for? I know Blackened Iron is for Suzuri ink.)

[Ngreth Thergn]

If they are actually "low quality mole rat pelts" and not "Sullies low quality mole rat pelts" then they are the rare and can be used to make the rare leather armo or the rare bags.

If it is as I sepcet sullied low quality mole rat pelts, it makes the basic armor and bags :)

[Gojira]

Yeah, I meant sullied. :(

So what resins would a mid-teens Outfitter be looking for that I might be able to trade with?

[Dafydd]

Yeah, I meant sullied. :(

So what resins would a mid-teens Outfitter be looking for that I might be able to trade with?

Just for future reference.

Tir 1 / Tir 2 & Tir 3 common drop pelts are all prefixed with Sullied. The RARE Mystical pelts are all named exactly the same but missing the prefix Sullied. I do not know about Tir 4 yet but I think I see a pattern forming.

[atonic]

Yeah, I meant sullied. :(

So what resins would a mid-teens Outfitter be looking for that I might be able to trade with?

Since you said resins, you are a scholar. Make him iron buckles he needs for his backpacks. He'll also need stroma wash/resin for treating his leather. To trade with a craftsman for boxes, make them studs that get used in those boxes. I think they just need resin/resin to make the lumber.

We need to transcend from the fear of interdependency to the spirit of synergy.

Or be like me and start a full account of alts to 20+