Turned Ash = No Value

[Moock]

I made some today and it's flagged as no-value. :(

[RavinRed]

Saw the patch notes and ran right out here. darn.

On the other hand, I was not looking forward to turning the 12-slot box full of scraps that I have.

Merry Christmas.

[cilrais]

was the sell value on totems effected?

[Moock]

Good question, I did't have all the stuff to make them when I was on this morning.

[Korsis]

Totems are an end product, not a by-product, so I doubt they are affected. Not being a craftsman myself, I can't test that.

[Zorrow]

Woodwookers are Doooooooooooooooomed!!

Spirit Totem of the Snow Bear needs followings:
2 Severed Ash (@1s)
8 Sandpaper
4 Thylakoid Resin (@2s)
2 Thylakoid Oil (@2s)
1 Belladonna Root (@2s)
assuming prestine Turned Ash Lumber and Prestine Totem can be made, then each totem cost 4.22s to craft whereas selling back to npc is 3.33s, each loss 0.89s and time.

And after using Snow Bear Totem, I observe no change to my appearance and no change to any stat in my Persona, the only message I saw was, "Sprit of the snow bear is out of charges. It has been removed."

It would be nice to see many Snow Bear during Christmas. How come the SOE change turned ash lumber to no-value, but most other bugs are still detrimental to woodworkers. (no advance craftsman recipes, fir still unusable, bard instruments unusable, other interdependent refined ingredients are either selling at high prices and no interdependent interim ingredients are being sold at all.)

Zorrow
Lv25 Woodworker

[Sorvani]

How come the SOE change turned ash lumber to no-value, but most other bugs are still detrimental to woodworkers. (no advance craftsman recipes, fir still unusable, bard instruments unusable, other interdependent refined ingredients are either selling at high prices and no interdependent interim ingredients are being sold at all.)

refined products are supposed to sell for around cost or a hair less. the Turned wood was a freebie by product that should never have been worth anything. you aren't supposed to get something for nothing.

as for why they did this, it's because the bug was being exploited, peopel had bots and macros and even just themselves churning out boards for the scraps to vendor. alchemists were doing the same thing with loam. they couldn't wait 2-3 weeks for the big patch to finish it's run on the test server before this got fixed baecause this and loam is where most of the hard core plat makers turned after the big provisioning nerfs.

[Korsis]

assuming prestine Turned Ash Lumber and Prestine Totem can be made, then each totem cost 4.22s to craft whereas selling back to npc is 3.33s, each loss 0.89s and time.

So that means that it is working as intended as per their publically stated policy. No profit for vendor selling, just a way to recoup some costs.

And after using Snow Bear Totem, I observe no change to my appearance and no change to any stat in my Persona, the only message I saw was, "Sprit of the snow bear is out of charges. It has been removed."

This is unfortunate. Hopefully we can /bug it and see it fixed along with potions and poisons in the big tradeskill patch.

[RavinRed]

Spirit Totem of the Snow Bear needs followings:
2 Severed Ash (@1s)
8 Sandpaper
4 Thylakoid Resin (@2s)
2 Thylakoid Oil (@2s)
1 Belladonna Root (@2s)
assuming prestine Turned Ash Lumber and Prestine Totem can be made, then each totem cost 4.22s to craft whereas selling back to npc is 3.33s, each loss 0.89s and time.


My pricing is a little different:

2 Severed Ash (free, it's lying around on the ground)
8 Sandpaper @ 6c
2 Fibers @ 6c
4 Resin @1.5s
4 Oil @ 1.5s
1 Belladonna (see Severed Ash, above)

Assuming Pristine that's 3.04s each. Okay, 29c profit sucks, but it's not a loss. And your calc is a bit off even if you do assume a cost for lumber, as 1 Severed Ash will make 3 Turned lumber, making the Ash cost of your calc 1.333s rather than 2s.

[Valr]

Dloesn't one severed ash make 6 turned (2 scraps, 3 turned for each scrap)?

[Kimaya]

Not everyone can harvest or wants to harvest...
Besides, time spent getting ash > time spent getting money to buy ash easily.

They could have at least made the turned worth 30cp or something so we could continue to skill up on it, but then maybe they dont want us to do that either.

edit - perhaps this was a lot more profitable at higher tiers?

[Aguirre]

Kimaya, yes it gets worse and worse as the tiers increase. Tier4 was pretty bad (15gp per half hour I guestimated).

[Enphuego]

This totem only works for 20+ adventurers, its not bugged, its working as designed. The level 31 Spirit Totem of the Wolf will work on everyone, regardless of level. Also the Snow Bear totem only lasts 3 minutes anyways.