harvis99
12-17-2004, 12:13 AM
In addition to the cries about being able to process raw materials , and "easily" being able to skill up , heres another thing to cry about. Most people i meet at least , are broke , and i mean grey armor , crappy spells and not a pot to piss on.
Example , i zone into commons and auction grim spellbinder app3 , this necro sends me a tell , real excited ooh ooh i want how much plz . /tell newb 50s for tier 3 spells newb tells you Holy @#$ i cant afford that =( . Later i went to meet someone else at the griff station near nektulos , and he was there on top afk , maybe takin a break or whatever , i inspected him. Level 24 necro , still wearing pants and shoes from isle of refuge , the robe you get when you become a necro , awakened ring of valmarr , basically ALL grey gear , complete garbage , and this guy has literally no cash. And this is just an example its not just him.
Majority of the people that send me tells when i auction tier 3 spells dont buy them because 50s is too much to spend. Now look at it like this
In an average day you could sell maybe 4 or 5 tier 3 spells if you push them. so lets see here i sell them for 50s a pop to non guild , i pay 15s for paper and quill from a good friend. and 10s for ink from another good friend . Thats 25s profit . Which is a good profit ratio , if it was less then 50% i wouldnt craft.
Now lets look at tier 2 spells , i can make the ink , i can make the paper on my craftsman / quills too. I forget the cost offhand for all the stuff but its low. i sell the completed product for 12s , thats like 8 silver profit . So the ratio is much much bigger on low level spells. And because they sell for less , they sell fast , and when i mean they sell fast oh boy ! So in a day , if i want to make alot of cash , sadly , i make goddam tier 2 spells , which blows goats because EVERYTHING is trivial. So whats the benefits of making tier 3 spells? gaining skill is it !@ ! imagine that , i have to get stuff from other ppl just to make it , and you get like 2-3% in a level from each spell , which is cool if you could make stacks and stacks , which you wont .
My experience has led me this far , everytime im in tradeskill instance i say this /ooc Trading canvas patterns for canvas threads even trade. Tailors need tons of patterns to skill up 22+ and i mean tons. And you need tons of these garbage patterns for you to skill up as well. So meet some tailors , this dependency garbage is in full effect people. I work with about 5 tailors atm , and the only limitation is beladonna roots . Which are required to make the thread , alchemist made resin also you need but thats roots too.
Bottom line? in my eyes , it pays to make tier 2 spells for cash for now . And just grind these stupid patterns. Hopefully changes will incur in the long run making the "average player" more wealthy , cause there is a tremendous unbalance between the crafter and the non crafter , look at me for example , im 22 inquis with full suit of pristene crafted armor , weapon and jewelry , 60g in the bank. Average level 22 that dont craft has like 22 silver on him and grey armor =( not trying to brag but this is the sad truth.
Example , i zone into commons and auction grim spellbinder app3 , this necro sends me a tell , real excited ooh ooh i want how much plz . /tell newb 50s for tier 3 spells newb tells you Holy @#$ i cant afford that =( . Later i went to meet someone else at the griff station near nektulos , and he was there on top afk , maybe takin a break or whatever , i inspected him. Level 24 necro , still wearing pants and shoes from isle of refuge , the robe you get when you become a necro , awakened ring of valmarr , basically ALL grey gear , complete garbage , and this guy has literally no cash. And this is just an example its not just him.
Majority of the people that send me tells when i auction tier 3 spells dont buy them because 50s is too much to spend. Now look at it like this
In an average day you could sell maybe 4 or 5 tier 3 spells if you push them. so lets see here i sell them for 50s a pop to non guild , i pay 15s for paper and quill from a good friend. and 10s for ink from another good friend . Thats 25s profit . Which is a good profit ratio , if it was less then 50% i wouldnt craft.
Now lets look at tier 2 spells , i can make the ink , i can make the paper on my craftsman / quills too. I forget the cost offhand for all the stuff but its low. i sell the completed product for 12s , thats like 8 silver profit . So the ratio is much much bigger on low level spells. And because they sell for less , they sell fast , and when i mean they sell fast oh boy ! So in a day , if i want to make alot of cash , sadly , i make goddam tier 2 spells , which blows goats because EVERYTHING is trivial. So whats the benefits of making tier 3 spells? gaining skill is it !@ ! imagine that , i have to get stuff from other ppl just to make it , and you get like 2-3% in a level from each spell , which is cool if you could make stacks and stacks , which you wont .
My experience has led me this far , everytime im in tradeskill instance i say this /ooc Trading canvas patterns for canvas threads even trade. Tailors need tons of patterns to skill up 22+ and i mean tons. And you need tons of these garbage patterns for you to skill up as well. So meet some tailors , this dependency garbage is in full effect people. I work with about 5 tailors atm , and the only limitation is beladonna roots . Which are required to make the thread , alchemist made resin also you need but thats roots too.
Bottom line? in my eyes , it pays to make tier 2 spells for cash for now . And just grind these stupid patterns. Hopefully changes will incur in the long run making the "average player" more wealthy , cause there is a tremendous unbalance between the crafter and the non crafter , look at me for example , im 22 inquis with full suit of pristene crafted armor , weapon and jewelry , 60g in the bank. Average level 22 that dont craft has like 22 silver on him and grey armor =( not trying to brag but this is the sad truth.