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Chants
12-15-2004, 01:26 PM
I made one of these last night...

Any idea what I should sell it for?

Or should I just save it for when I make a scout alt? . :)

Durgrok
12-15-2004, 01:34 PM
I'd save anything attuneable for a few months as high-value twinkbait, but that's up to you. Doesn't Ngreth and Co. get annoyed if you go price-hunting on here though?

Goonie
12-15-2004, 01:48 PM
Yeah, they get annoyed. Maybe wanna post the stats on the item so it hides the fact you are fishing for prices? :D

Chants
12-15-2004, 01:59 PM
Blah! ... Ive already gotten one Warning PM about my Language and Tone... I am not the type to hide anything. Its not like im auctioning it here... Just wondering what is its approx. value on the market... Market values of many items, especially eolith and stroma, has been discussed here.

Moonshade
12-15-2004, 02:10 PM
Discussing what people think are fair prices should be fine. If you want to market and try to sell specific items, thats what the marketplace forums are for. So, discuss away! :)

Goonie
12-15-2004, 02:23 PM
woohoo! that bein said, id like to know to. I havent made any yet cause I havent seen any for sale on my server so dunno what the going price is. List the stats if you can and ill give my 2cp.

Chants
12-15-2004, 04:17 PM
Here ya go ...

http://eq2images.station.sony.com/itemicons/194505126810.jpg

Durgrok
12-15-2004, 04:29 PM
If the delay on that is indeed 1 second, I would value it quite highly, around 3-4gp or so.

Chants
12-15-2004, 04:52 PM
Hmm considering the cluster itself is going for 3 to 5 gold on Najena... I think higher...

The huge difference in the economys among servers is disturbing...

Magnum
12-15-2004, 05:52 PM
Problem with rares right now is that they are selling for so much its hard to price items (exspecially Tier1 & 2) at a rate to make them worthwhile. That is a nice weapon. I used dual wield 3-9 damage, 1.2 sec delay weapons with slightly lower stats during my 10-19 level range. (Actually started with 2-7 damage and moved up over time to the 3-9 damage.) All were quest rewards so cost time not money.

That weapon is indead superior, but is it enough that you could get the 5gp+ to make it worth the crafters time? If you can find someone who has the spare cash and is outfitting a twink perhaps, but its gonna be a small market regardless. I'd say look at the going rate of rare Blackened Iron Ore on your server and go a little over that (little be a relative term here.)

Goonie
12-16-2004, 08:36 AM
eh, its ok....


hehe, jk. dang nice weapon bro. If the rare is going for 3-4gp on your server, I would prolly ask for 5 - 6gp on a Pristine. Then again, I undercut myself all the time hehe.

Durgrok
12-16-2004, 10:21 AM
Hmm considering the cluster itself is going for 3 to 5 gold on Najena... I think higher...

The huge difference in the economys among servers is disturbing...

The clusters go for 1-3 gold on our server, I think. On Everfrost/Freeport, tradeskills are a tad underappreciated. I also tend to price a bit lower than most, since I prefer moving more goods at lower prices than fewer goods at higher ones; builds a bigger customer base for later, high-end/high-profit sales.

Magnum
12-16-2004, 11:36 AM
I realized last night that I was looking at damage wrong. I'm pretty sure the 3-8 damage listed is the base damage, which means (depending on class) the actual damage would be higher. For a scout then this would be a very 'sweet' weapon. With a delay of 1 the damage output would be very nice. Question being, is it worth the several gold that a crafter would need to price it at? Personally its something that I couldn't afford at this time in the game, but for an alt a year from now would probably pay nicely for it.

Oaga
12-16-2004, 11:40 AM
In my experience people dont know who they are buying from when it comes to selling things on the brokers.

Selling in Anton/ComnLands will of course be different.

After a few weeks with some armor though i doubt people will remember if they bought it from me at all. The only thing that would give them a chance would be my name on the armor piece/Bag itself.

I would love to be able to build a customer base, i just dont think the economy is sofisticated enough. What value added service could you offer after the sale?

Oaga
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Gilfalas Elaandrin
12-16-2004, 11:52 AM
If the delay on that is indeed 1 second, I would value it quite highly, around 3-4gp or so.It is not. it is 1.4 seconds. The weapon and items listings from EQ 2 Players are, generally, horribly off. They universally drop fractions on all weapons delays and have never shown a correct resist on any item with more than +10 resists in one area.

Sadly EQ 2 Players is a fabulous idea that has, so far, been executed terribly. The item database especially. Yes the statistics database is definately interesting but the real MEAT of it is not working correctly and has not since start and I have seen nothing even addressing it on the SOE forums.

Elriak
12-16-2004, 03:42 PM
At 1.4 second delay, that weapon is nothing special. Considerably better stats than the average weapon you'd be wielding in the 10-19 levels, but as a scout, I'm not choosing a weapon for its stats, but for the damage/delay ratio -- stats are a tie-breaker.

Comparable (or identical) damage/delay weapons are available for well under a gold, and there's no way I'd pay an extra 3 or 4 gold for an extra couple points of agility and some hit points and power over, say, a Badlands Stiletto.

I'd have to agree with the posters that have said hold on to it and see if you can sell it in a few months to a twink -- you're not going to get anyone to pay you enough to make it worthwhile right now. Of course, in a few months, the extra few gold you might get probably won't matter all that much to you...

(Of course, there's nothing lost by sticking it up on your trader for 5 or 6 gold and see if anyone will bite, you might get lucky.)

Magnum
12-16-2004, 05:05 PM
Anyone else get the feeling that due to the rarity (and thus cost) of rare items that they are going to end up being either twink gear or gear used by the person making it?

I know that in Beta I had a druid/tailor who I turned the rare leathers into armor for. The armor was very nice (and actually did make a difference in my ability to stay alive and heal party members due to the extra AC and power/hps) but there wasn't any way that I could sell a full set of it to another player at a reasonable cost and the difference from just one piece wasn't enough to be noticable.

Goonie
12-17-2004, 09:43 AM
I would love to be able to build a customer base, i just dont think the economy is sofisticated enough. What value added service could you offer after the sale?


Maybe a 10% lifetime discount if they refer 2 people to you as regular customers?

Goonie
12-17-2004, 09:45 AM
Anyone else get the feeling that due to the rarity (and thus cost) of rare items that they are going to end up being either twink gear or gear used by the person making it?

I know that in Beta I had a druid/tailor who I turned the rare leathers into armor for. The armor was very nice (and actually did make a difference in my ability to stay alive and heal party members due to the extra AC and power/hps) but there wasn't any way that I could sell a full set of it to another player at a reasonable cost and the difference from just one piece wasn't enough to be noticable.
in this case, no. it is attunable, which makes it no drop.

Gilfalas Elaandrin
12-17-2004, 12:46 PM
Anyone else get the feeling that due to the rarity (and thus cost) of rare items that they are going to end up being either twink gear or gear used by the person making it?I think that in the future, when housing is more widespread, folks will realise the best use for metallic rares is not weapons and armor but home furnishings.

To the best of my knowledge home furnishings are tradeable forever and the player made items created from rare materials have a better value when countering status cost for rents on the more advanced housing.

Funriture and house items made from rre components have a real value when countering status costs and as such have a lifetime value, as opposed to the extremely limited life span of attunable gear (that is still quickly upgraded from by the next tier).

Durgrok
12-17-2004, 01:23 PM
I dunno... some of those houses, I have a hard time imagining someone EVER being able to use...

...case in point - in Freeport there's a 3 room, two-story with an open-air veranda. Very spiffy, but it's something like 61pp and 2200 status A WEEK in upkeep.

The way the economy is developing, that's going to be a tremendous sum of money; fine, a guild could use that as a guildhouse, but how is a single player supposed to keep that much status rolling in?

LadyAnnaAnna
12-17-2004, 02:06 PM
Ohhhh, Stiletto as in the weapon... heh ya
I thought they meant as in the shoe.... figured it would be interesting to see an inky walk by in forged iron stillettos lolol

JuneauCB
01-05-2005, 01:57 PM
I dunno... some of those houses, I have a hard time imagining someone EVER being able to use...

...case in point - in Freeport there's a 3 room, two-story with an open-air veranda. Very spiffy, but it's something like 61pp and 2200 status A WEEK in upkeep.

The way the economy is developing, that's going to be a tremendous sum of money; fine, a guild could use that as a guildhouse, but how is a single player supposed to keep that much status rolling in?
I haven't seen any three-room houses that cost 61pp and only 2200 status per week. Which part of Freeport was that in?

2200 status per week is easy to maintain. That's basically a single writ per week. Also, having high status items for pets and furniture can lower or even eliminate the status point upkeep cost. For example, the baby dragon you get for buying the Collector's Edition saves you 1000 status points on status upkeep.

Housing with status point costs are not designed to be guild houses for all guild members to live in; they're designed for people in guilds who spend time serving Freeport by performing writs and completing heritage quests. They are the same houses anyone can rent but at half the coin price.

61pp is a lot of money, especially for the paltry amount of status you listed as the other half of the pricing. Are you sure that wasn't 61gp or even 61sp?