Main Site Recipe Listings

[Ngreth Thergn]

How would you like to see the main site Recipe Listings?

A. As Is. Just each class (Pro, more at once, Con, More at once (slower larger page that is more difficult to find what you want))
B. Break it up by the target sub-class.

Artisan

Artisan (Alchemist)
Artisan (Armorer)
Artisan (Carpenter)
Artisan (Jeweler)
Artisan (Provisioner)
Artisan (Sage)
Artisan (Tailor)
Artisan (Weaponsmith)
Artisan (Woodworker)

Craftsman

Craftsman (Carpenter)
Craftsman (Provisioner)
Craftsman (Woodworker)

Outfitter

Outfitter (Armorer)
Outfitter (Tailor)
Outfitter (Weaponsmith)

Scholar

Scholar (Alchemist)
Scholar (Jeweler)
Scholar (Sage)

Alchemist
Armorer
Carpenter
Jeweler
Provisioner
Sage
Tailor
Weaponsmith
Woodworker

(Pro, faster listings, easier to search, con information more spread out)

[Moonshade]

Not knowing how much work is involved for you for either method, I would say the split option. Also, will there be cross-linking within recipes? Meaning can you click on a subcomponent and link to its recipe?

[Ngreth Thergn]

Not knowing how much work is involved for you for either method, I would say the split option. Only a bit extra work, not a huge deal :) would be better for the server if I do this breakup.
Also, will there be cross-linking within recipes? Meaning can you click on a subcomponent and link to its recipe?
there is :)

http://www.eq2.eqtraders.com/items/show_item.php?item=3907&menustr=035000000000

[Moonshade]

Sweet! Good job :)

[DeWeasel]

Break it up, and I'm glad you're using the outline form for the recipes -- I always thought that was a great change on EQTC. :)

[Goonie]

You rock!

[NerissaGoldenrose]

I think breaking it up by sub-class is a good idea... but then again, I tend to like to micro-organize whenever I get a chance. ;)

However, I can also see the other side... as an artisan (outfitter, craftsman, scholar) if you want to skill up quickly, you often don't care *what* you are making, as long as it gives you xp, so you may want to see all of your available recipes together.

Would it be too much extra work to do a link to "All Artisan Recipes", for example, in addition to the sub-menus? That way you could keep everyone happy all at once.

[hullabaloo]

i would be happy to volunteer some time to work on the recipie listing pages if you like.

[Lordebon]

I do like it broken up :)

But perhaps to satisfy both crowds the broken up variety, and then also a button to show a sortable list of all of them (say all the artisan recipes). How much more work would it be to cross link them? I'm not sure how you run it, so I'm not sure if thats feasible or not. I would think so tho :)

[Flendon]

I voted for split them up. Not to add more work to you, but what about by tool/skill used as well? You know someone is going to ask eventually so I figured I would put it out there.

[Ngreth Thergn]

Would it be too much extra work to do a link to "All Artisan Recipes", for example, in addition to the sub-menus? That way you could keep everyone happy all at once.
Well, the exisitning is that way :)

so it is more a "find how to best link it" after I add code to split it out. :)

[Lordebon]

How would you like to see the main site Recipe Listings?

A. As Is. Just each class (Pro, more at once, Con, More at once (slower larger page that is more difficult to find what you want))
B. Break it up by the target sub-class.


Artisan

Artisan (Alchemist)
Artisan (Armorer)
Artisan (Carpenter)
Artisan (Jeweler)
Artisan (Provisioner)
Artisan (Sage)
Artisan (Tailor)
Artisan (Weaponsmith)
Artisan (Woodworker)

Craftsman


Craftsman (Carpenter)
Craftsman (Provisioner)
Craftsman (Woodworker)

Outfitter


Outfitter (Armorer)
Outfitter (Tailor)
Outfitter (Weaponsmith)

Scholar


Scholar (Alchemist)
Scholar (Jeweler)
Scholar (Sage)

Alchemist
Armorer
Carpenter
Jeweler
Provisioner
Sage
Tailor
Weaponsmith
Woodworker
(Pro, faster listings, easier to search, con information more spread out)
How about something like this... (borrowing from your post, additions bolded)

Artisan

Artisan (All)
Artisan (Alchemist)
Artisan (Armorer)
Artisan (Carpenter)
Artisan (Jeweler)
Artisan (Provisioner)
Artisan (Sage)
Artisan (Tailor)
Artisan (Weaponsmith)
Artisan (Woodworker)

Craftsman

Craftsman (All)
Craftsman (Carpenter)
Craftsman (Provisioner)
Craftsman (Woodworker)

Outfitter

Outfitter (All)
Outfitter (Armorer)
Outfitter (Tailor)
Outfitter (Weaponsmith)

Scholar

Scholar (All)
Scholar (Alchemist)
Scholar (Jeweler)
Scholar (Sage)

Alchemist
Armorer
Carpenter
Jeweler
Provisioner
Sage
Tailor
Weaponsmith
Woodworker

[Rillaith]

On the other hand... if I'm a Sage, I can't make anything that requires me to be a Jeweller or Alchemist, so I wouldn't want to see their recipes in general.

So, how I'd interpret Ngreth's second list would be that "Scholar" lists everything makeable by a Scholar up to level 19, ie before they branch out and including general Artisan. And if I selected "Sage" it would be everything that a Sage (20+) can make, plus anything a Scholar or general Artisan can make. I'd be equally happy with "Artisan" so see everythign 1-9, "Scholar" not to include those but only 10-19, and Sage to be 20+ without anything from 1-19, except that generates a problem if any of the specific class or subclass books provide lower level recipes (which is entirely possible, I'm sure).

My reasoning is that, if I'm looking at a Scholar list, it's no use to me to see Alchemist and Jeweller recipes - because either I'm not high enough, or I can only be one or the other. (Unlike EQ1, I can see a strong argument for level-limiting recipes in the search/listings.)


Could even be an argument for individual personalisation of the site so that we all have accounts where we can tickybox the books that we have scribed, and the default lists are only for those books... but I'm going to pretend I never said that and run away and hide before Ngreth sends the hunters out after me :p

One thing I'd like to see (I may have possibly just not found yet) would be a page or pages which effectively links through to each harvested item, ie a list of harvestables (like the "foraged items" list for EQ1), that we can use to see what we can make from each weird item that we normally just throw out or trade to other people. Could be particularly useful given how artisan xp seems to work :) (I guess we can do the same by searching, though. :D Or I could knock up my own page with the links on. I'll shut up now and stop cluttering the airwaves...)

Dari

[Zendaken]

Check the main page, under the search function and try, for instance, "roots". You can then search for all recipes that use that item.

[Ngreth Thergn]

(at leat all we have in the DB curently... the DB is still growing! :)

[Zuklaak]

Another thing that might be considered is breaking up the final levels by tier, sothose lists don't get too long. Just a thought. :)