Hilts post 30

[Rimmbok]

Anyone else concerned that Hilts are a weaponsmith only recipe and our tailoring is capped at 20th level? I know they are not primary components and require only a crude success, but still, this is a little odd. I don't want to have to fight to make a crude hilt at 40th cause my tailoring skill is horrid.

[Norin]

This is a growing problem, e.g. Armorers have to make metal bars (carbonite, etc.) using Weaponsmith skills that are stuck at lv19. In their case, they are able to buy from Weaponsmiths, but it still results in a number of difficult recipes across the board.

[Rimmbok]

I think Armor smiths have this problem with Plates actually. I believe they are the only ones that can make the Plates (not sheets) that they need, but it is based off of weaponsmithing, which obviously is capped for them.

I figure I will be 25 tonight, potentailly 30 by next weekend. I am hoping that a big tradeskill patch is coming down the pipe soon

[nicolaskl]

There are items that I *can* make as a jeweler but I'm not any good at it because they're a different profession. So there may very well be another class out there that makes the items you're talking about better than you.

[Gilfalas Elaandrin]

Armorers have to make metal bars (carbonite, etc.) using Weaponsmith skills that are stuck at lv19.Is this definately confirmed? If so this is the single most moronic thing I have heard of. If an armorSMITH cannot even make the metal BARS he needs for his primary component that is simply stupid. Interdependance is one thing. This level is just moronic.

ArmorSMITHS work metal. They should be able to reliably make bars for themselves. What I am hearing is that they cannot make ANY of their own basic components at all?

[Ixnay]

The leading armorsmith on my server (level 29) told me that yes, his skills for refining bars have not increased, and despite his best efforts, he can only get a pristine combine on carbonite about 3/4 of the time. Which is ok with him by the way, because the armor smith recipies are bugged in a way that to make pristine armor, they need to use shaped sheets.

I have no idea whether this problem is going to extend to Tier 4 refining, which this person's guild has just started on.

But I would rather be able to make pristine from a shaped primary component than not to be able to make pristine at all, which is the case with our level 24 recipies and many others.

[Gilfalas Elaandrin]

believe they are the only ones that can make the Plates (not sheets) that they need, but it is based off of weaponsmithing, which obviously is capped for them.BTW I am fairly certain that PLATES are made with metal shaping and not metal working. I KNOW sheets are metal SHAPING, since I have to use that skill to make them for the Carpenter in my guild who makes my bank boxes. Also I skilled up on Tin SHEETS to raise my metal shaping skills around level 17 or so since I had a bunch of tin and stuff in the bank that I did not need any more.

[PhantomCleric]

BTW I am fairly certain that PLATES are made with metal shaping and not metal working. I KNOW sheets are metal SHAPING, since I have to use that skill to make them for the Carpenter in my guild who makes my bank boxes. Also I skilled up on Tin SHEETS to raise my metal shaping skills around level 17 or so since I had a bunch of tin and stuff in the bank that I did not need any more.


You would be wrong there. Carbonite Plates (not sheets) use metal working, which is what is causing so much trouble for us armorsmiths. The carbonite plate (not sheet) is the primary ingredient in the teir 3 plate armor and as such should require a pristine quality component. Currently that is bugged to so it works out but it should be metal shaping so we can actually produce the primary component for our products using the skills we are given.

[Rimmbok]

Yes, Armorsmiths have the same problem with Plates as we have with Hilts. Both are used in most of out recipies, both can only be made by us, and bot use skills that are Capped at 19th level.

In addition to that we can each make the base component for these (Bars and Stetchs) but again only with a capped skill, so we would potentially have to have another class make these to have a reliable pristine quality. Luckly Quality doesn't matter for Hilts, not sure about Plates though.

[Gilfalas Elaandrin]

Carbonite Plates (not sheets) use metal working, which is what is causing so much trouble for us armorsmiths. :eek:


This is just so WRONG.

Hope that 'big patch' next week fixes this sort of silliness.

[Aguirre]

If it is not primary component and can be crude I would not be concerned for a long long time.

I can easily crank out tailored components at shaped, everytime at tier3, and I am a woodworker. I can often get regular and pristine but I do not bother.

[Dafydd]

You would be wrong there. Carbonite Plates (not sheets) use metal working, which is what is causing so much trouble for us armorsmiths. The carbonite plate (not sheet) is the primary ingredient in the teir 3 plate armor and as such should require a pristine quality component. Currently that is bugged to so it works out but it should be metal shaping so we can actually produce the primary component for our products using the skills we are given.


I believe all this but...
Has anyone Confirmed that Weapon smiths do not have the recipie for plates?

[Ixnay]

We have the recipe for sheets, not plates. Armorers have the recipe for plates.

[Maena Bowyer]

I'm not sure making hilts is going to be a problem, since it isn't a primary.

As a woodworker, my tailoring skill is at the lvl 9 cap (not even the level 19 cap that weaponsmiths have for tailoring) and I can pretty much make regular/pristine tier 3/4 thread just fine, which uses tailoring skill. I'd have to guess they've actually designed it "well" and the difficulty on these "off skill" recipies doesn't ramp up.

So, I'd guess hilts are the same way, you should have a fairly good chance of making regular/pristine ones, which is all you really need.

As for bars/plates/sheets/whatever? If they're a primary, I'd assume SOMEBODY has a recipie for 'em who has the skill to make them, (even if it isn't you) and as I said, these "off skill" recipies don't seem to ramp up in difficulty, so even if nobody does, it'll likely still be possible to get pristines.

[Gilfalas Elaandrin]

I have adjusted myself to the conept that crude hilts are fine. It annoys the piss out of me (since I want all pristine components for the XP boost) but have learned that making prstine hilts is just too power and time consuming. Now I just get them crude and stop the combine to get them done with.

Not what I LIKE but they work.