Jeweler Dependencies

[Fizzit]

I am tryiing to compile a list of which classes are dependent on other classes. I currently have

Jewelers dependent on Alchemists for Thylakoid Oil, Neolith Temper, Thylakoid Resin, Thylakoid Wash, Loam and Ink.

Jewelers dependent on Weaponsmiths for Spikes (Carponite Spikes)

Jewelers dependent on Tailors for Bindings (for Tomes) and various pieces for Sashes and Belts

Are these the only dependencies do you have? If so please just say so, if not please help out and list what you need and which other artisian makets it, either by posting it here or on this thread that currently lists all the dependencies: http://mboards.eqtraders.com/eq2/showthread.php?t=1633

Thank you.
Fizzit

[Alonso]

I thought there was already a consolidated post about this somewhere, but I'm far too tired to look.

You can add Tailors to our dependency list. They make Bindings (for Tomes) and various pieces for Sashes and Belts.

[Fizzit]

updated Thank you.

I've searched and could not find one. My list started from the most complete one I could find and it was on the EQ2 web page. The link is in the consolidated list I am making in General forum. If there is a more complete list please point me to it!

Thanks again
Fizzit

[Alonso]

Sorry - must have been really tired when I posted my first reply. I think your consolidated post was the one I was thinking of.

Also - you can add Ink to our dependency list for Alchemists (Scout Runes need the same Ink as Sage Scrolls I think).

[Fizzit]

I updated it to add the inks.

Thanks again

Fizzit

[Taelnayael]

Was working on making carbonite bars. And while we can make pristine, its not the easiest because we dont have the durability buffs etc. that the outfitters get. It is not like 10-19 when we were working with iron because we cannot use our jewelcrafting skills to hit events made for the forge.

Just a little fyi. We aren't completely dependent, but if I am going to sell or give to another player I like to make everything pristine, and the way it is now makes making pristine carbonite bars extremely tough.

That is unless I am missing something, it was kinda early this AM when I was trying it.

[Sokolov]

You are right.

And the rate of death of jewelers attempting carbonite bars is quite high due to this very fact. You have to pay really good attention.

I refuse to do subcombines for other people if they do not provide the bars. Even then it's not really worth my time unless they are paying 40s a pop, but who is going to pay that? So I just do it for free usually if provided bars and tempers.

[nicolaskl]

You are right.

And the rate of death of jewelers attempting carbonite bars is quite high due to this very fact. You have to pay really good attention.



The rate of pristine is low, but I don't really see what that has to do with the death rate being high.

[Sokolov]

From what I can tell, the greater the skill difference between the item and your own, the greater damage one takes from missing the events.

As for me, missing a couple will mean death... sure, I could pay more attention, but when it's a green (maybe even grey now) combine and I am only doing it to be nice, I don't WANT to pay more attention... which has resulted in my death more than once ;)

[Kyzan]

Hmm, I dont see how you can die at the forge. im a 25 jeweler and making Carbonite bars dont see where ya can kill yourself. just got to hit the right button in right sequence. Of course making pristine bars of carbonite is a task in itself. Im about 5/20 pristine :(

[Artaud Terranova]

I've made carbonite for people - bars, buckles, studs etc because you can't always find a craftsman free. I usually just got for shaped quality or crude because I can be sure I'll make all of them the same quality. It doesn't make any difference anyway because these are rarely (are they ever?) the primary ingredient. For friends I'll make them free if provided carbonite/tempers, for others I usually ask for extra tempers as payment and it works out well for all concerned.

I know people who won't make anything but pristine, even met some of them. I never understood them; why bother when it doesn't matter and doesn't give even half decent exp? And what are you going to do when making a ring for a melee - make fashioned with +3 sta, or pristine with 0 sta? It just seems silly to force people to find another craftsman before making studs for them when they could get everything done with 1 person.

[Appren Hightowerr]

For making carbonite bars, I just try to "power" myself through the process, being sure I have at least 50% mana before I start, and spam Tempering and Anneal full-time, and cancel if you loose too much durability before crude is done. Still, the pristine rate isnt all that great. :/

[Tashim]

White Hot Metal failure = self-castration

[Sokolov]

Hmm, I dont see how you can die at the forge. im a 25 jeweler and making Carbonite bars dont see where ya can kill yourself. just got to hit the right button in right sequence. Of course making pristine bars of carbonite is a task in itself. Im about 5/20 pristine :(

Well, the problem is if you look away at the wrong moment you can die ;)

Whereas with jewelery random button presses will net you pristine and you take very little damage if any.

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HI Tashim! =D