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hroft
11-25-2004, 01:12 PM
Does anyone know what lvl these bags are? and what lvl is the book and what is it called with their recipe? I know of a L17 outfitter on runnyeye makeing the 10slot 19% bags what book is the recipe in and where do u get it?

thx
Hroft

Ngreth Thergn
11-25-2004, 02:35 PM
It will be in Tailoring Essential 25 (for the "common" ones)

probably in the rare outfitter 15 or 16 book for the rare version (which is a waste of a good rare unless you really need that extra 9% Weight reduction)

Dogfu
11-26-2004, 05:01 PM
The "rare" Cured Hide Backpack is 9 or 10 slots, and comes in the Advanced Outfitters 15 book.

But, I think you also need the Advanced Outfitters Refining 11 book (or some such) to make the Refined Cured Leather.

And double but, you also need a rare average low quality pelt (not the sullied), so I doubt anyone was making more than a few of these packs.

Would this be a waste to use a rare pelt for this? I'm not sure if there is anything better to use it with unless you are nearing level 25.

Nodlo
12-03-2004, 06:13 AM
wonder who that could have been.

Typhus
12-10-2004, 08:52 AM
I have made Cured Leather Backpacks. Why is it a waste?

I can't make Boiled Leather Backpacks till 25, and what else would I want in Cured Leather? The Armor is no trade once attuned, and by the time I can make it and actually get the Average Pelts I am almost through tier 2 and would want tier 3 armor.

It seems to me Rare Drop Armor is for twinks. If you can get it at the lowest level you can equip it, its probably worth it. Otherwise, not so much.

Korsis
12-10-2004, 02:08 PM
It will be in Tailoring Essential 25 (for the "common" ones)

probably in the rare outfitter 15 or 16 book for the rare version (which is a waste of a good rare unless you really need that extra 9% Weight reduction)

I agree with Typhus. What other rare leather item can you craft that will last you until level 25? What other rare leather item can be resold when you are done with it?

Personally, I think using it for anything EXCEPT a backpack is a waste.

Dafydd
12-10-2004, 02:32 PM
I agree that Ngreth is wrong in this case.

If you make leather armor with it doesn't it have to be attuned? Don't you then out grow it at level 20 and then it can not even be sold.

Definatly the 10 slot back pack!

Lange
12-10-2004, 02:39 PM
Love my pristine cured leather backpacks (10-slot, 19%). Even the level3 Cured Leather Backpack is 10-slot, 14%.

Lemamas
12-13-2004, 12:44 PM
WOOT! Lange! I am from MN too! Farmington though. not the big city heh.

Anyway. I made 2 rare Tier 3 bags this weekend for a friend when I dinged level 25. It was awesome Lots of folks want me to make stuff for them now and I really love being the first on my server to do it that i know of. Of course Freeport might have a higher Tailor but oh well.

So yeah Pristine Cuirboili BackPack
12 slots
19 WR

Swoon!
I had a hard time giving it up.

PS the Boiled Leather at the Shaped grade put my resists all into the 150 range or more from the 30 range prior to me making them.... Awesome stuff. To bad I have to give it up at level 20... Maybe I won't though!

Goonie
12-14-2004, 06:40 AM
Ok, so I have the Advanced Outfitter 15 and saw it needs cured leather. From reading this post, I see that is another book. May have to turn off adv xp and go farm in VS or something. Anyhow, the pelts. Yall are saying I need the average low quality pelts. Are these from trapping or are they from bears or somethin?

Durgrok
12-14-2004, 08:54 AM
Negative. You need NON-sullied average pelts; they come from the same places as sullied average plets - dens and what not - but they're very rare; I've gone through some 600 sullied and not run across one yet.

Korsis
12-14-2004, 10:20 AM
It was awesome Lots of folks want me to make stuff for them now and I really love being the first on my server to do it that i know of. Of course Freeport might have a higher Tailor but oh well.

You could check http://www.eq2players.com

That's my favorite section under acheivements, server discoveries! Nothing like hard proof that you were the first to discover something!

Durgrok
12-14-2004, 10:24 AM
From what I have seen, the good side *typically* has more advanced and interested tradeskillers than the evil side on most servers. This may be due to the mentality of most folks who choose evil - the whole "power through ruthlessness" mentality, which tends to suggest a non-tradeskill approach.

For example, I'm the only person on my server to put up cured leather backpacks for sale as far as I know, and I've only seen two or three other tanned backpack sellers. Now that I'm actually working with boiled leather, I may in fact be alone, but I'm quite sure I have several more advanced counterparts over in Qeynos, from checking the fence.

Lange
12-14-2004, 11:43 AM
Lemamas,

So the basic level 25 tailored backpack is the 10-slot 9% and the rare is the 12-slot 19% right?

Can anyone comment on whether there are 12-slot 9% bags at level 35 tailor?

Durgrok
12-14-2004, 12:43 PM
I'd imagine so - the better question is whether or not the rare is 14 slot... ;)

Lemamas
12-14-2004, 01:16 PM
Sort of on the bag stats. Let me list them from what i remember from last night. I am at work now so I will only list what I know for sure:

Pristine Boiled Leather Backpack (Tailoring Essentials volume 25 and volume 20 required)
Requires 1 Boiled Leather Plate, 1 Boiled Leather Cord, 1 Carbonite Buckle, and Fuel

The end result is a 10 slot, 10% weight Reduction bag at the pristine level.

Pristine Curiboili Leather Backpack (Tailoring Essentials volume 20 and Advanced Tailoring volume 21 and 25 required)
Requires 1 Curiboili Leather Plate, 1 Boiled Leather Cord, 1 Carbonite Buckle and a Fuel

The end result is a 12 slot, 19% weight reduction bag at the pristine level.


Thanks for the Tip Korsis. I was checking the acheivements but they were not refreshing. I looked last night again and it is a fact, I was the first to discover all of the level 25 items that are made by Tailors and even the first to discover the level 25 essentials book so that is the real proof. If no one bought it before me and on the same day I discovered the book and the combinable items then I should be the top but you never know, someone could have skipped everything in the level 25 set and jsut exp'd on through to level 29... doubt it though since I made the first T3 bags of both the rare nad common on hte same day. What tailor would not make those bags as the first level 25 combine? :)

On a side note, fame even small on your own server does not last. I was undercut on prices for the level 25 armor this morning by a new 25 tailor... Except his bags were twice my price... I will have to talk to him to reach a happy medium.

5% to level 26 so I will be collecting those Sullied High Quality pelts soon. Time to delete those level 6 rawhide components I have been hanging onto I think ;p

Talk to you all soon.

Durgrok
12-14-2004, 01:24 PM
You must be Qeynosian, Lem? I've never seen your bags competing with mine in Freeport. (I'm glad, too. Hehe.) Are thylakoid mixtures easily obtainable over there? Sure aren't over here.

Lemamas
12-14-2004, 04:26 PM
They are starting to decline in price but yeah they have always been available. Check the black market for availablity. Prices are dropping as more people are able and willing to make them. I expect the flow of the market to fluctuate as the masses move through the various levels of tradeskills. The bulk of the population will go from level to level at nearly the same pace given the expected and actual rate at which they are able to move their wares off their trader at profit so as to be able to buy more supplies to make more goods and get more exp. The price for T3 has already dropped for the sub components and the T4 items will start to roll out in bulk next weekend for all tradeskills for just the sub components. Finished products will take a little longer to get to for most of the classes will be in the early 30's. This will lower the price of the T3 items greatly as people will be looking to move the products at near cost simply to free up bank space.

Look for falling prices on T3 over the next few days but also notice how the T2 items will go up in price. This is due to the fact that there will be less people exping off the T2 items and so the supply is less than the T3 and the demand will stay near where it was for people with useful items in the T2 set such as bags and boxes and food. The others will dwindle and only complete the combines for T2 on request with a desiganted price for the combines.

Got to go.

Torval the Harvester
12-14-2004, 05:45 PM
To return to the original topic, if anyone especially cares, I scored a couple of non-sullied average quality pelts for extremely cheap early on. I'm sure the people selling them didn't know what they had. Well, I in turn didn't really know what to do with them. Yes, I could have made backpacks. Instead I made a matching tunic and pants set for a monk in my guild who was in her low teens then. By now she's probably out-grown the gear and moved onto better things, but I take pleasure in knowing that she would have been a very uniquely equiped monk for at least that span of time. Sometimes that alone is a good reason. :)

'Val

Typhus
12-15-2004, 10:01 AM
Agreed Torval, the armor is great... IF you can get it early enough. You can't make the Cured Tunic until 19, IIRC, so its almost a waste to make it for yourself. If you can get the rare stuff close to minimal equip level, its nice. I have Eliezer in half a suit of Tier 2 Rare Cloth, although I was bitterly disappointed that the Tailored Merchantine vest is inferior to the level 10 Quest Robe. Maybe if I had gone with the blouse...

Durgrok
12-15-2004, 10:11 AM
Rare-pelt armor will be the ultimate twink gear; the wise artisan makes an alt, saves up the pelts now, and in six months makes a monster killing.

Chants
12-28-2004, 12:32 PM
It will be in Tailoring Essential 25 (for the "common" ones)

probably in the rare outfitter 15 or 16 book for the rare version (which is a waste of a good rare unless you really need that extra 9% Weight reduction)

In no way is make the backpack a waste of the rare.. Its the ONLY reasonable thing you should make... All the armor made from the rare hide is attunable and at the speed you lvl 10 to 20 its a waste of the money it costs.. The bag lasts FOREVER!

BuzWeaver
02-02-2005, 09:14 AM
Sort of on the bag stats. Let me list them from what i remember from last night. I am at work now so I will only list what I know for sure:

Pristine Boiled Leather Backpack (Tailoring Essentials volume 25 and volume 20 required)
Requires 1 Boiled Leather Plate, 1 Boiled Leather Cord, 1 Carbonite Buckle, and Fuel

The end result is a 10 slot, 10% weight Reduction bag at the pristine level.

Pristine Curiboili Leather Backpack (Tailoring Essentials volume 20 and Advanced Tailoring volume 21 and 25 required)
Requires 1 Curiboili Leather Plate, 1 Boiled Leather Cord, 1 Carbonite Buckle and a Fuel

The end result is a 12 slot, 19% weight reduction bag at the pristine level.


Great info, I'd love to see a Bag/Box sticky like this.

Durgrok
02-02-2005, 09:22 AM
Now here's the real question...

::holds up his tier 5 pelt::

Rare tier 5 armor breastplate, or rare tier 5 16-slot backpack with 19% WR? :eek:

Lemamas
02-04-2005, 07:36 AM
Breastplate bro. ALL THE WAY